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Thinking out loud about this 2008 Focus install

Sat, 30 Dec 2023 14:33:40 +0000

I saw a couple of other manufacturers have a T-Harness that works with the 2008 Focus, but not Fortin's. I also noticed that the FORT1 is compatible with the 2008 Taurus. So I pulled up the install sheets:

https://fortin.ca/download/107381/EVO-ONE_IG_REG_BI_FOR-FOCUS_2008-2009_A_107381.pdf
https://fortin.ca/download/95201/EVO-ALL_IG_RTS_BI_FOR-TAURUS-2008-2010_KEY40bits_A_95201.pdf

The ignition connectors appear to be the same form factor and the same pinouts, but different wire colors. Just wondering if someone could perhaps review this and see if this would change the install options at all? Like using the THAR-FOR1 with the EVO-ONE? Or possibly being able to use the EVO-FORT1 or FORT4?

I do see that the Focus install has a Disarm wire connection that is not present on the others. The other guide for reference is here

Appreciate it!

yellow light stays on when I plug in the 20 pin, and get the key to program

Tue, 02 Feb 2021 17:01:31 +0000

we get to programming the key on y 2013 ford focus and the light stays yellow when I plug in the 20 pin and then its goes to red and yellow and it won't program.

Request for updated install instructions - US 2015-2019 Ford Transit 150, 250, 350

Tue, 28 Jan 2020 10:37:32 +0000

There is a 3rd party selling a prewired 3x factory remote start based on the Evo-All so it would seem that the Evo-All can be wired as a stand alone (can-bus) remote start but there are no instructions for this application / US version of the Ford Transit.

See link:

https://www.amazon.com/Start-X-Remote-Starter-2015-2019-Transit/dp/B07PM8ZVNJ

Install Video:

https://d2y5sgsy8bbmb8.cloudfront.net/f71daf72-8800-4c9c-8e09-2963fdbb1b99/default.jobtemplate.mp4.480.mp4

In the installation video (2m37s) the Evo green wire (door status?) is connected to the vehicle Purple/Green described as the vehicle lock wire. Can this connection be explained?

Also, if this is workable what would be the external trigger wire (ground to start/stop)?

For the Evo-All and Thar-For1 T harness would the following be correct?:

Yellow/Black from T harness to [A1] Yellow on 20 Pin connector
Connect [C4] Can Low Grey/Black to Can Low on OBD II
Connect [C3] Can High Grey to Can High on OBD II
Ground Black from T harness

Looking for instructions on any other connection needed ie. lock wire (&diode) and external trigger

Why are datalink protocols F1 F2 F3 off?

Mon, 29 Oct 2018 16:19:49 +0000

I have been having issues with my remote starter system. My setup is a regular type with an Evoall and a crimestopper LC1 unit. Remote start doesn’t work after car battery replacement. 3x lock doesn’t do anything.

I tried to start the car with the remote that came with the LC1 unit and it does work! The OEM remote (3x press) does nothing but blue led flashes everytime i press it.

Im looking at the enabled features on my evoall unit and noticed that all data protocols (F1, F2 and F3) are off. Im curious if this is normal?

What else could i check on my setup?

Thanks

Issues after battery replacement

Sat, 13 Oct 2018 12:10:27 +0000

Hello

im having issues when remote start after a battery replacement on my car. Everything used to work very well. Wiring is intact.

My setup is a regular type with an Evo all and a crimestopper LC1 unit. Remote start doesn’t work at all after the battery replacement. 3x lock doesn’t do anything.

Blue led does flash on evo all when I lock - I lock car.

Can you please give me some ideas on what to check?

Thanks

2013 Ford Focus EVO-ALL won't complete programming

Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:17:12 +0000

I am trying to program an EVO-ALL in a 2013 Ford Focus with two original working factory keys. I get to step 5 and insert the first key. The yellow light comes on and goes off. When I insert the second key the yellow light does not come on. I press the program button in step 8 and the ignition comes on. The red light remains solid. The blue light blinks 20 times and then everything shuts off. I have verified the wiring is correct.

Any suggestions on why the module key bypass will not program?

Regards

Travis

Evo all wont get past PATS on 2011 for flex. No crank no start.

Mon, 09 Jul 2018 20:48:52 +0000

I get to the step to start the vehicle with the module and the ignition comes on but theft/PATS light blinks fast and car wont start til data plug is removed from bypass

Will the t harness work on 2010 f 250 lariat diesel

Wed, 20 Jan 2016 11:42:07 +0000

I have a 2010 f250 lariat and want to use the T harness and a evo one , will this combination work

2009 F-150 Thar-for1 t harness support for evo all

Thu, 17 Dec 2015 18:14:10 +0000

I got an evo all to install on a 2009 Ford F-150. I want to use Guide # 32171 to install the unit. But Fortin Thar-for1 harness only compatible with 2011-2014 F-150. Can I use the harness on my 2009?

evo fort1 thar- for1 cant program

Thu, 17 Dec 2015 14:59:16 +0000

i installed stand alone system with thar- for1 in my 2012 Ford focus(auto transmisi on) after last step of programming , when i push program button ignition is going on but 'immobiliser active ' alarm caming . evo lamps blue-red lighting where is the problem? my evo version 6 firmware. 7-29

14 Focus giving yellow light when plugging in 20 pin white plug during programming

Thu, 05 Nov 2015 11:37:48 +0000

Using T-harness

Ignition stays on after programing keys

Sat, 10 Oct 2015 15:48:26 +0000

after programing 2 keys I hit program button ignition comes on red lite flashes 10 times and ignition stays on nothing else happens ????? It keeps doing this everytime I try and reprogram.

F-150 BCM on pass. side; no green/violet wire; and more than one yellow/violet wires.

Thu, 24 Sep 2015 03:25:38 +0000

Evo-All ForT1 71.28 F150 C1, D1 BCM wiring color guide wrong. Is pass side BCM (not shown in picture) wire colors different from BCM drivers side wire colors shown in diagram?

Ignition output of remote starter connected to KeySense!

Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:20:45 +0000

In the EVO-ALL THAR-FOR1 rev20150427 guide for Ford Focus 2012-2015 , the Ignition(+) output from remote starter is connected to A1, A16 and Yellow/Black wire of T-Harness, all KeySense(+).

Shouldn't the Ignition output be connected to Ignition input of Ignition Switch or to the Ignition wire(s) of the T-Harness D-connector D3/D5?

Has anyone attempt to use the THAR-FOR1 on a 2009 Mustang?

Sat, 31 Jan 2015 14:15:35 +0000

I'm trying to find the easiest install solution before I make any purchases

EVO-All solid blue light does not stay on when programming?

Sat, 31 Jan 2015 10:15:10 +0000

2012 ford focus Se with the evo all and thar-for1. When trying to program the Can bus, the solid blue light turns off as soon as I plug in the 20 pin connector, then when I turn the ignitiom on the blue light comes back on and starts blinking. Upon turning off the ingition the blue light remains blinking. What am I doing wrong?

2014 Focus EVO-ALL Cannot get Red LED to only flash once at end of programming-stays solid

Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:44:41 +0000

Thanks for your help in advance-Using EVO ALL in '14 Focus SE as stand alone remote start unit, with THAR-FORD1 T Harness.

Step one goes fine, led goes to solid blue (step 2) once data link connector inserted. Proceed to plug in all other connctors (step 3). All connectors go according to plan, until I plug in the 20 pin connector. Blue LED goes out and starts flashing......keeping me from going to step 4.

EDIT: CHANGED YELLOW TO IGNITION, WAS ABLE TO PROCEED AS INSTRUCTED.

CAN Hi/Lo are all connected at OBD connector, keys are factory keyless keys, with no markings-but I suspect they are the 40 bit keys as all the Focus' for '14 are. (I do not have the flash tool, I hope this doesn't hold me back!!)

Lock is connected to brown wire behind button on dash below radio.

Is the yellow that comes from the T-Harness to pin A1 in the 20 pin connector supposed to be ignition, or constant (+) ? It is constant as it is out of the box hooked to column connectors.

This is a brand new unit just received for this vehicle. It has firmware 71-18 , hardware version 6 , Service # 001A06448488

Thanks for any help getting this squared away.

Respects-

Justen

Remote Starter on 2014 FORD Escape with EVO-ALL & THAR1?

Tue, 16 Dec 2014 09:13:22 +0000

I was hoping to use EVO-ALL for stand alone RS but recently advised it wont work and I need to add a 3rd party RS starter....the Wire Color info for 2014 Ford Escape shows RS connections 42-53 at the Ignition Harness. Will the FORD THAR1 allow me to make all these connections on the THAR1 wiring without modifying car wiring? (12V power, IGN1, IGN2, ACC1, STRT1)?

Wire color and relay required For parking lights? 2012 F150

Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:04:31 +0000

Install: 2012 f150, stand-alone evo all unit with thar-for1 t harnes, used only for 3x remote start.

From my understanding, the parking light wire is in the passenger kick. A) what color is it? and B) do i just tap into it from the evo all, or do i need to install a relay?

Thanks in advance

2014 Mustang - Evo All with Fort1

Sat, 29 Nov 2014 18:14:08 +0000

Just wondering - is enough to connect all cables around stering wheel and can high ,can low ? or I need to do some other connections ? I want to make it as easy as possible

2012 Ford Mustang GT Auto EVO ALL with THAR-FOR1

Sat, 01 Nov 2014 15:40:22 +0000

I have installed the EVO all with the Thar1-For harness. The programming of the EVO all goes all as mentioned in the manual. But the remote start system does not work.

It states in the manual that you have to connect it the Orange wire from the 20pin EvoAll connector to the Ground running wire. Which wire is this ? Or can I just connect it to the car ground.

Next the SMJ box is in the passenger side of the vehicle. This means i have to run the wires from the SJB to the EvoAll.

Next, I cant seem to locate the 26 PIN connector in the car. I have however figured out that the Mustang does not have a 26pin connector.

Note that I am using this as a stand alone remote start (i.e. 3X remote start). But still the car does not remote start even after the programming.

2013 F250 Won't Remote Start

Wed, 15 Oct 2014 15:34:09 +0000

Hooked up EVO-ALL & THAR-FOR1 in 2013 Ford F250 as a stand alone remote start. EVO is programmed for remote start & factory alarm bypass. Unit programmed for 2 keys, programmed per instructions, all lights came on properly. With door closed using lock, lock, lock to start red light comes on, 2-3 seconds later yellow light comes on, does not crank, after 30 seconds all lights go out & resets. What is wrong?

Thanks, Mike

Problem on add compustar cm6300 alarm system on 2014 Ford F-150 with factory alarm and remote starter

Fri, 11 Jul 2014 23:30:00 +0000

This truck 2014 F-150 which ready has factory alarm and remote starter, but customer want add proximity sensor / shock sensor and siren. I use compustar CM6300 / THAR-FORD1 / OMEGA AU-94 proximity sensor and no extra remote ( using factory remote ). I use D2D connection, EVO-ALL hardware ver.6 and firmware ver.71.06 and I figure out some problem. 1. siren no beep sound when arm and disarm 2. can't disarm compustar alarm after I remote start a car, I need use factory remote to stop a engine first then no problem. 3. I can't disarm when compustar alarm trigger until siren is stop. Any solution to fix?

need better instructions to install evo-all on 2011 ford flex. better wire locations to.

Mon, 03 Mar 2014 13:25:18 +0000

When I bought this device the description started only about 6 wires would have to spliced in. The instructions I can find are kinda undetailed. I would like instructions that start like this: step 1 do this and this step 2 etc.... Is there anything like thus out there or any installation videos I could watch. Thanks

Ford F250 EVO-ALL & THARFOR1 Install Question

Wed, 29 Jan 2014 16:16:24 +0000

I want to install this as a stand alone remote start only. After hooking up the T Harness, what other connections must be made to make this work?

Will not learn second ign key 2014 Escape

Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:00:27 +0000

More of a information ticket as i figured it out

2014 Escape with THAR-FOR-1 t harness and evo all program #1 section 14 should read Press and Hold the EVO programming button untill ignition turns on then release.

As I spent about 1 hr trying to program. Also it worked and did learn the CAN bus but it did not turn off the ignition.

EvoAll + THAR-FOR1 in 2014 Ford F150

Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:04:56 +0000

When installing a remote start into a 2014 Ford F150, everything is identical to the 2013. So yup, go ahead and install the EvoAll with the THAR-FOR1 t harnes , program it up and you are set.

Cheers.

Factory alarm not disarming with remote start

Sat, 11 Jan 2014 12:50:42 +0000

Vehicle 2013 Ford Explorer

Remote Start / Alarm - Viper 5901

EVO All - with THAR FOR 1 T- harness

EVO All service # 001A06 265528

Current firmware 71.10

Everything works when the vehicle is disarmed. When factory alarm is set "ON" the remote start will start the car and then turn off imediately and the alarm goes off. I was told that I do not need option 12 selected to "ON" So I have not tried that with firmware 71.10. I did try it with firmware 71.11. I was also told to try firmware 71.05 but that did not work . Everything is hooked per the diagram for the THAR FOR 1

starter will not allow the vehicle to turn off?

Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:40:12 +0000

2011 ford edge ts133 titan starter, THAR-ford1 harness and evo-all by pass. installed the system and it worked. customer comes back and says that the vehicle will not shut off unless you unplug the data link connector. tryed new starter module and new evo all. when i programmed the evo all as soon as i turn the key onn the ignition will stay on. open the hood does not make a difference and neither will the brake. when its running the vehicle is fully operational and drivable with out the key in the ignition. any ideas?

cl

Tue, 07 Jan 2014 16:41:45 +0000

mon evo-all avec thar-ford1 ne se programe pas....impossible de d

RE: 2011 Focus SE. I have a customer who states his key only has a letter "H" stamped on it.

Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:29:17 +0000

RE: 2011 Focus SE. I have a customer who states his key only has a letter "H" stamped on it. Is that a 40-bit that will work with the EVOFORT1 as a stand alone?

EVO-ALL & THAR-FOR1 with RS unlock wire?

Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:16:09 +0000

I haven't installed this yet, but will be later today.

When using the EVO-ALL and the THAR-FOR1 t-harness, why do you have the remote start unlock wire hooked up to the door unlock wire, but the EVO-ALL lock wire hooked to the door lock wire?

Thanks!

Justin

Where can I purchase the THAR-FORD1?

Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:30:01 +0000

Where can I purchase the THAR-FOR1?