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Request for CAN Wiring Diagram – Start-X Kit (Dodge Challenger 2015–2017)

Mon, 23 Feb 2026 19:02:57 +0000

I recently purchased a Start-X remote start kit for my Dodge Challenger 2015–2017 from Amazon. After opening and installing the kit, I discovered that some wires are missing — specifically the CAN bus harness that connects from the OBD-II port (pins 6 and 14) to the module.

I contacted Start-X support, and they kindly offered to either send the missing harness or replace the kit. However, I have already shipped the kit overseas, so returning or receiving replacement parts is unfortunately not a practical option for me.

While researching, I found a Chrysler wiring document that explains the module side (white connector) CAN wiring, which was very helpful. The missing component appears to be a 2-pin CAN connection from the OBD (pins 6 & 14) that transitions into a 5-pin CAN connector going into the module. https://cdn02.fortin.ca/download/97651/evo-all_ig_rts_bi_chr6-7-300_2011_pts_b_97651.pdf

I would like to build the missing harness myself, but to do so safely and correctly, I need the wiring diagram or pinout configuration for the module.

Module Serial Number: 001A07 682508

Could you please provide the CAN pinout diagram or technical guidance for this specific module so I can fabricate the harness properly?

Thank you very much for your assistance.

Subaru Legacy Rear Defrost (Aux1)

Thu, 11 Dec 2025 02:11:33 +0000

015 Subaru Legacy std key SUB1 harness installation. EVO-ONE. I'm trying to turn on the rear defrost when the car is remote started. As instructed in other posts, I tied the AUX (yellow/black) wire to the negative wire identified as the defrost trigger on WireColor (behind dash fuse box, pin 26, purple / green). I then set option 25 as pulse (0.5). When the car starts there's still no sign of the rear defrost being enabled. The button can still be toggled manually but does not come on at start. Even though other areas had this listed as pulse, I did go through the latch settings just in case but none worked. Am I missing an additional step here?

I have a 2021 kia k5 and on one of the guides it says to cut the wire. Am i not connecting it to the EMS Comm wire

Mon, 20 Oct 2025 14:22:48 +0000

Am i not connecting the green wire to to the white EMS comm wire? Is it going to ground?

20 conductor harness wires too short??

Thu, 10 Jul 2025 03:22:35 +0000

I don't understand how people are installing these units, I can't find any way for the wiring to reach the passenger side kick panel. The wires are at least 1 foot too short on the 20 pin connector so is there a trick to the install or do I need to buy an extension? I was hoping to not splice in sections of wire but I will if I have too.
purchased the EVO-FORT1 standalone with THAR-FOR1

Wires that are too short are A17-19 on the 20 pin connector "A"

thanks

looking for correct wiring diagram for evo-all 2010 volkswagen golf wagon (Canada)

Tue, 07 Jan 2025 15:29:58 +0000

Having issues finding a correct evo-all remote start diagram for a 2010 VW golf wagon tried the one diagram with the key under the dash but did not work, do i need the TB-VW module ?

I need diagram wiring

Tue, 07 Jan 2025 15:10:00 +0000

Can i use evo all to start the car? and where to find the diagram. I have been here to download the diagram https://www.wirecolor.com/en/vehicles/honda_civic_-_push-to-start_(2022-2025)/ it showing me to have starter alarm as well could you help me please thanks

2006 infiniti g35 wiring diagram not specified

Sat, 28 Dec 2024 20:53:19 +0000

Good day all

I looked into vehicle finder for a guide for a 2006 infiniti g35 interlligent key. Fortin website gives me guide#78031 or this link https://cdn02.fortin.ca/download/78031/EVO-ONE_IG_REG_BI_NIS-G35-PATHF-ALT-MAX_KEY_A_78031.pdf

when i look at the the connection. It only gives me a connection to a pathfinder and altima/maxima.

my question is. Do i follow the connections for the maxima/altima since they are the counterpart of G35?

Also notice the lock and unlock wires are both going to an empty pins? How do you tap that wire? Do i need to get pins for that plug?

btw, im gonna be using evo-one with rf642

thanks in advance guys!

2018 Tiguan will not start

Wed, 13 Nov 2024 20:25:03 +0000

2018 VW Tiguan, STD-Key, Not digital cluster, AT

EVO-ALL firmware 64.06

THAR-VW6

Decrypted and programmed successfully, but when trying to remote start via lock lock lock from oem key, car turns on, but doesn't crank.

Tested while in the car and the depress break light (shift lock) was still illuminated. I wired in the Yellow/Red Break Out to Black/Red VESCM (+)Foot Break correctly.

Tested command start while in the car and depressing the break, works.

Please assist.

Wire colors for passlock for 2008 Chevy Impala

Fri, 19 Apr 2024 17:51:31 +0000

Needing help with installing my passlock SL2V2

What do the colored numbers mean on the instructions. No explanation on how Wirecolor guides work. Please explain.

Wed, 07 Feb 2024 22:02:00 +0000

Can I please get an explanation of the Wirecolor instructions?

2018 SUBARU OUTBACK (US Model) - EVO ONE - THAR-ONE-SUB1 & THAR-ONE-SUB3 - Module will not program

Sat, 27 Jan 2024 22:12:34 +0000

This is on my 2018 Subaru Outback, US model

REGULAR KEY - Automatic Transmission - No factory alarm system (from what I can tell) - Yes factory immobilizer

Remote Start: Fortin EVO One. Firmware Version: 84.12. Using Flashlink USB programmer.

Wire Harness: THAR-SUBONE-SUB1 & THAR-SUBONE-SUB3 (both SUB1 & SUB3 harnesses simultaneously I guess? Though initially unsure, I went forward & did order and installed both as shown in the diagram linked in the next line down. Specifically, on page 5 out of Ten, the page with the heading: THAR-ONE-SUB1 & THAR-ONE-SUB3 | AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION CONNECTION )

I made the connections as indicated on this PDF I found on your website: https://fortin.ca/download/99401/EVO-ONE_IG_RTO_BI_SUB1-SUB3_OUTBACK_2018_KEY_A_99401.pdf

Before connecting to the car, I:

1. connected the evo one to my laptop & ran the flashlink software.

2. The software recognized the USB programmer.

3 Then I plugged in the Evo One module & confirmed it was detected in flashlink software

4. I logged in, then input the following vehicle data: 2018 subaru outback, regular key .

5. I let the flashlink software download the newest firmware & recommended settings for the 2018 subaru outback
6. I hit the program button to send the configuration to the Evo One

7. Disconnected Evo one from the flashlink programmer & held down the programming button

8. While holding down the programming button, plugged in the 6 pin connector from the Sub-One harness, at this point installed in the car, to the Evo One

9. Continued holding down programming button while the red yellow & blue lights cycled, then released the button when the lights were lit up RED & Blue simultaneously

10. Began to press the programming button 6 times to enter the programming mode

11. However, right after the very first push of the programming button the red & blue lights would blink once & then go back to solid red & blue so I continued pushing 5 more times to get a total of 6 presses.

13. At this point, the module is blinking red & blue simultaneously 5 times in a row > pause > blink red & blue 5x again > pause > red & blue 5x blink > continues in perpetuity until I insert the vehicle key & turn it to the Ignition 2 position (2 clicks/aka accessory mode)

12. Soon as key turns to ignition 2 setting, The RED & BLUE lights both light up & stay on continuously.

13. The instructions say to start the car at this point, but turning the key from Ignition 2 to Start does not cycle the starter. No lights dim, no clicking from relays, it is not even trying to start.

14. I hold the key in start position for about 2-3 seconds, then release it back to ignition 2 which would leave the vehicle running normally if it had started at this point

15. The red & blue lights on the evo one continue to stay lit continuously & never reach the part where they flash 10 times, ostensibly because the engine never even started still which does make sense.

I guess my question is, does this have anything to do with the jumper that is shown in the PDF? I don't understand what the diagram is trying to say with the Jumper A & Jumper B section. Does the jumper in jumper A need to be removed? And then the cable in the jumper b position get plugged back into the Sub 3 harness? But only for the outback & legacy models of the car? I'm not quite clear what I'm supposed to do with the jumper A OR the Jumper B. So I just left them both plugged in.

After a while sitting in ignition 2 position with the red & blue lights lit up on the evo still, I just gave up & turned the key off then unplugged the : 5p Data link wire > 6p red plug > 20p white plug > 6p main power plug from the evo to turn it off. Then plugged it back into the flashlink programmer & attempted to see if I could do the decryptor programming anyway, but as expected I get the notification that the module never received the datalink information

I also tried reflashing the module once or twice to be sure the settings stuck, the behavior of the vehicle stays the same. I have read through about 50 of the first quiestions that were relevant to this generation subaru that I could find on here and have not seen this answered elsewhere. I hope maybe someone can advise me on what tthe jumpers do, what I should do with the jumpers in jumper A & jumper B plugs, and how they would affect, if at all, the vehicle no longer starting with the regular key

Tach sensor 2009 Kia Spectra

Thu, 26 Oct 2023 09:22:45 +0000

2009 Kia Spectra. THAR-ONE-KHY1. I need to know which wire to connect the tach signal to. Yes, in the Wire Colour diagram it does tell me which wire on the ECM, but no-where can I find which wire on the EVO-one it must be connected to. I have by-passed it currently using programmable option 20.2, but the start quality is pathetic; in cold temperatures it requires more crank time, causing excessive starter drag in warmer conditions. Adjust for warm temperatures and the crank is in-sufficient for the cold mornings. Advice for me?

2008 volvo s60

Sat, 21 Oct 2023 13:21:35 +0000

Hi, I have 2008 volvo s60 std key automatic and i want to install evo all. Can you help me to find correct installation manual?

EVO-ALL and CarLink CL6 Wiring

Sun, 20 Aug 2023 01:14:09 +0000

I installed EVO-All using THAR-For4. Then i added Carlink CL6 into it. Remote start stop, battery health, and gps features worked right away with no issues but Carlink App also has 4 Auxilary options, heated seats options and lock/unlock options. I read on Fortin that my THAR-For4 shuold be enough to use lock/unlock feature on CL6 but it does'nt work, So I guess I have to open the kick panel and split wires there. I paid $5 for wirecolor.com subscription token to see if I can find wiring help but its created by a 5 years old so thats ok.

My question here is how to I connect heated seats to EVO-All and is there any way to add climate control to one of those auxilaries showing in the app (add it to evo then use auxialry to control it). If I can get wire colors and location of wires I can work with that. Thanks

P.S. I have evo flash tool and I checked my lock/unlock options are on in the Evo-All settings.

Do D6 and D3 only read ignition?

Thu, 20 Apr 2023 23:51:24 +0000

On the evo one are d6 and d3 only for starting the car with key? The immobilizer amplifier is fried and it seems they go on the ignition side after the cut wire so im wondering if they are necessary or if i can get away with putting them blank. Any information or thoughts would be awesome.

PUSH TO START SAMRT KEY

Wed, 08 Feb 2023 09:28:55 +0000

Hello

Does anyone know how to test the starter wire on the ECM plug of a 2017 Mirage?

Does it have 12V and drops on crank like on a standard key, or is it different.

What size fuse for 12v postive wire on EVO-ONE-2021 Kia Sportage push start?

Fri, 06 Jan 2023 19:22:22 +0000

Wiring diagram shows a fuse on the 12v+ wire coming from the 34 pin connector on the fuse box and going into pin E3 on the EVO, but does not specify what the fuse rating should be. What size fuse should be used?

Please help on wiring 20 pin connector (Evo Chatr 5) in my Jeep Patriot Patriot to distance start by original key?

Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:49:53 +0000

Please help on wiring 20 pin connector (Evo Chatr 5) in my Jeep Patriot Patriot to distance start by original key.

I received my Evo chatr 5 with no instalation guide, I don't know how to connect the 20 pin connector wires...

When I hold the program button the leds become Blue but when I put the key in ignition they still on but not flashing?

Please help on this urgently, the snow is coming :)

Wires used for remote start only

Tue, 11 Oct 2022 15:32:20 +0000

2013 Impreza, base model, manual trans, I am looking to use only the remote start feature, not the alarm or any of that. Only installing the RFK411,1 button kit. Which wires can I eliminate from the install?

Turn on rear defrost when remotely started Subaru Impreza 2013

Tue, 27 Sep 2022 18:13:24 +0000

what wires to use on evo one?

what wires to hook to in car?

also wiring guide for 2013 Subaru Impreza is missing A1 pin on 20 pin connector(yellow) on module to Ignition. without it car will not start after installing evo one unit

No Power to EvoAll 2008 Ford Escalp with Tharness

Wed, 14 Sep 2022 13:35:09 +0000

Hello, I have an Evo-All with a FordThar1 installed in a 2008 Ford escape for stand alone remote start. The vehicle will start and run with the Key normally, but iim not getting any power to the Evo-All. Ive verified this with a DVOM and use a second EvoAll module. Is my T Harness faulty? or is there something else ive missed?

Subscription didnt activated

Mon, 29 Aug 2022 15:03:40 +0000

Can you please add my token i already paid for it . I have to work on the car thank you

Evo-one to 2009 diesel ram tach hookup and which mode

Fri, 20 May 2022 23:29:50 +0000

How does the system know when the vehicle has started. Do I need a tach hookup. Also which tach mode do I program the evo-one. Is it tachless mode, or the other. 2008 diesel ram 2500

How to hook up power windows as aux with Evo One on 2017 Tundra?

Mon, 25 Apr 2022 15:57:14 +0000

Hello, how would I go about hooking up my power windows to roll up and down on 2017 Tundra equiped with Evo One?

Relay needed for 2010 Subaru Impreza Starter2?

Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:00:21 +0000

I have installed an EVO-ONE on 2 subarus so far, 2009 WRX and 2009 Forester. When I went to look at installing one in my 2010 STI i re-loaded the settings from my 2009 WRX as a good starter as I know it worked well. In Setting 2 (programmable output) I noticed the setting I had programmed 2.1 (which was likely suggested before) was not the one with the thumbs up icon which was 2.4. The wiring instructions still show using a relay for (+)STARTER2 and (+)ACCESSORY, however the suggested setting shows (+)STARTER2 connected to a direct wire from the EVO-ONE and no (+)ACCESSORY wire listed. Why does the suggested option not seem to match with the instructions?

Has anyone used the thumbs up selection 2.4 and NO RELAY at all and just NOT connect ACCESSORY?

2013 mustang , evo one, FORT1 -Do I have to convert the E1 wiring to 10 Amp and connect it to the parking light??

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 18:42:47 +0000

2013 mustang , evo one, FORT1 -

Do I have to convert the E1 wiring to 10 Amp and connect it to the parking light??

WIRING DIAGRAM

Sun, 20 Feb 2022 13:42:42 +0000

Hello

Does anyone have a wiring diagram for a 2017 Mitsubishi Mirage for Evo-All

T-HARNESS

Wed, 09 Feb 2022 06:39:12 +0000

Do you have T-harness for a 2011 KIA Cee'd (EURO), for an Evo All?

How to connect D4 D6 , 2006 Nissan Altima

Sun, 23 Jan 2022 14:24:37 +0000

I'm using evo-one with niss2 harness for my 2006 Nissan Altima I am confused about the connection D4 and D6 showing guide #78211. I also don't know where to connect the pin 30 from the relay for parking lights . A picture would be great, or can I leave the parking light unconnected? The last question, do I have to have a RF module to remote start? Because when I put my key at on position, the blue lights went off.

Aftermarket push start and Evo One

Tue, 18 Jan 2022 09:35:30 +0000

Is it possible to integrate an aftermarket push start kit with the Evo-ONE? I trust it's brains more than the ones that come with the kits and was wondering if it could be wired into it, or if it would have serious conflict even if it's a separate installation.

2004 Pontiac Vibe Install

Sat, 08 Jan 2022 18:11:16 +0000

I am trying to install a Evo One on my 2004 Pontiac Vibe. It dose not have a transponder and i can not seem to get it work under the no vehicle specific install through the update software. What is the best firmware to use since there is none listed for the Vibe till 2008?

Does the relay need a protection diode across it?

Sat, 25 Dec 2021 11:19:40 +0000

2020 Kia Sportage standard key.

Install guide calls for a relay. Does said relay need a suppression diode. Across 85/86 pins?

2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee brake wire relay

Sun, 12 Dec 2021 13:22:46 +0000

What relay do I use to wire directly to my brake? My evo all is not shutting down when the brake is pressed and tech support said I need to wire directly to the brake with a relay to reverse polarity.

Thank you.

Do you have to connect wires through the 20 pin connector and the 5 pin can connector?

Fri, 10 Dec 2021 12:39:14 +0000

I just want to have the remote start feature on my 2013 ford fusion standard key. What do I need to do to accomplish this? I have the correct t harness and an evo all.

Black 20 pin connector vs White 20 pin connector

Tue, 09 Nov 2021 22:58:25 +0000

Is there a difference between the black and white connectors? Connected the yellow wire from a black 20 pin connector (Evo All).....NOTHING, replaced it with the yellow wire from a white connector... worked after that. Are they pinned different?

Evo-one with T-Harness will I need to install 6 pin power connector

Mon, 08 Nov 2021 20:00:23 +0000

Hey all, I have a 2016 Audi A3 8V Push to Start. & before I begin my installation here. I am following the given guide for the no key required Evo-one and T-Harness (thar-vw1) & was wondering if I also need to install the 6 pin power connector that came with my Evo-one. As the guide I am following doesn't specify for my vehicle. Thanks!

I cant start the car programing.

Thu, 30 Sep 2021 14:35:10 +0000

onc I press the button on the unit and plug the 6-pin conector, the leds start flashing quickly in the following order (red-yellow-blue) and I cant get the blue light to be solid.

Rear Defroster

Sun, 08 Aug 2021 11:41:01 +0000

Hi I have an 2009 Toyota Corolla S

My question is I want the rear defroster to turn on when I remote auto start the car .

Can I wire it to an aux and if yes where should I connect and which one I should use.

or can i just use Evo FlashLink to setup it .

Thank You

I can't get the yellow/black wire aux output to work.

Mon, 02 Aug 2021 13:31:10 +0000

I selected multiple options under option 25, (0.5 second to 30 second latch time), and no option allows me to have the yellow/black wire output anything, (neagative or positive, either will do as I need to drive a relay). I need the yellow black wire to activate a 12V relay in order to simulate pushing the front windshield de-icer button. It needs to be a quick latch, unlike the orange wire on the 6 pin connector which is being used to power the rear defroster/side view mirrors continuosly in R/S mode.

2004 jeep Grand Cherokee evo all , connection 1 only 3 wires ?

Mon, 10 May 2021 22:26:55 +0000

Per connection 1. On the guide it's only showing Ignition, Data. Theres no 12v constant, or Accessory, or Start. So I'm just wondering why these connections are not needed... I mean literally looks like 2 or 3 wires on the 20 pin to use, and the 2 on the Red plug. I'm so lost on how this is working. Videos online show tapping into the main loom and grabbing the accessory, and starter, and constant to start the vehicle. Then the 2 wires for the bypass. Also last question do I need to hookup the obd2. Is that the same as data ?

Evo one 2008 mkz regular install, need to know where to hook alarm

Mon, 29 Mar 2021 00:07:51 +0000

Need to know where to hook up my duel shock , and siren on evo one wire to wire. Guide 88581 also going to use compustar 901 remote. I believe I only have to swap the rx/tx wire.

2010 Acura TL Push Start Evo One will not program

Tue, 23 Mar 2021 13:17:18 +0000

While installing the EVO One to my 2010 Acura TL (with Push-to-Start) I found that several of the wire colors called out by the installation (REV:20191022, Guide 19411) and the Wire Color guide did not match what the car has (on gray 32 pin connector and blue 36 pin connector). I proceeded by connecting at the specified locations shown on the diagram. Once the connections were completed, I attempted to program the module (which was updated and programmed with the Flash Link Updater). Step 1-4 went OK, however, when I got to step 5 (Do not press the brake pedal. Press the Push-to- Start button twice to turn on the ignition-- The RED LED will flash rapidly 10x times. -- Key bypass programmed. --The BLUE LED will flash rapidly. --CAN-Bus programmed.), the red LED extinguished and I could not complete the programming. I tried this several time with the same results. Your help with this issue will be greatly appreciated.

THAR-ONE-SUB2 on US 2015 Subaru Impreza guide

Tue, 09 Mar 2021 21:40:34 +0000

It appears this particular T-harness isn't as plug and play as it is compared to T-harnesses for other makes and models. Does anyone have a guide to locate the plugs for this car? The guide only helps so much because it's not made for use with the T-harness and none of the plugs it points to fit the harness except 1A.

Any inputs or available guides for this particular T-harness would be helpful.

What does the OR mean on guide# 86741 for A2 of 20pin connection?. Does it mean one or the other?

Mon, 01 Mar 2021 12:39:36 +0000

09 Focus Evo One standard install. I have in 4001 and in4004 diodes, are they ok to use?.

using Evo one standalone generic installation signal for doors closed

Mon, 18 Jan 2021 10:53:14 +0000

2003 suzuki aerio manual transmission, evo one genaric installation, when activating ready mode your suposed to get out and close the door to shutdown. how is this door sence wired in? im thinking the hood pin wire (a15-pink/black) is used as door input rather than hood pin?

EVO-ALL THAR-VW3 TB-VW Issues

Mon, 11 Jan 2021 05:38:14 +0000

2012 VW Jetta (Gas) Key Start

EVO-ALL
THAR-VW3
TB-VW

Everything was soldered! Programmed good but it didn't remote start at the first time but the it auto tried the 2nd time, started fine this time and a few times after.. client took the car home.. all good..

1 week later, got a call from the client saying that the remote starter is not working and also wont start normally wiith the key. The only way they got it started was they unhooked the battery and replug it again.

The next day, got another call and client said that the vehicle stopped while driving.. they pulled over and waiting a few minutes and the vehicle started again but engine light came on. Took it to a shop and scanned codes:

Code: B104C29
Description: Key - Implausible Signal
State: Passive/abiogenesis

Code: 00474
Description: Anti-Theft Immobilizer System Control Module
State: No Signal/Communication

I got the vehicle back into the shop.. replaced the EVO-ALL.. double checked all my connections and even used the opposite side of the transponder wire pair.. soldered it and made sure that the TB-VW wire config is going the right way.. programmed fine but now the vehicle remote starts fine on first try!

Guess what.. client called back again after a few days with the same no remote and key start issue.. battery unplug and replug make it work again,

Got the vehicle again and now ths time.. i actually replaced the THAR-VW3 and the TB-VW. Its been 2 weeks now and client hasn't called back yet..

Now... i have to figure out if the T-Harness will cause no start, stall and engine light codes

THAR-FOR2 wire colors do not match install guides

Thu, 31 Dec 2020 18:59:16 +0000

I have a THAR-FORD2 Rev.1 Lot 50317 T-harness. The harness has a yellow wire, grey w/black wire and light blue wire that are not terminated to a connector. All other wires are terminated into connectors. The Light Blue wire comes from a micro relay that is part of the harness. The Grey w/ Black wire is teed into the dark blue wire that teminates into the micro relay. The yellow wire comes from the bundle in the loom. In guides # 59241 and 59411 the guides indicate there should be a Yellow, Light Blue and LIGHT BLUE w/ BLACK wire. This harness does not have the Light Blue w/Black wire, it has the Grey w/Black wire. Should I use the Grey w/Black wire in place of the Light Blue w/Black? I want to be sure so that I do not damage the EVO-ALL or the vehicle. Thank you.

Yellow wire on Evo start 2

Thu, 31 Dec 2020 05:03:07 +0000

Hi

Where to connect yellow wire for evo start 2 , im using evo one and Hon2 Tharness

2014 honda crv, key start

Where to connect the Yellow wire on the Evo start 2. Using EVO one and THAR TOY 8

Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:55:36 +0000

Using the THAR TOY 8 and EVO ONE, wanted some clarification on where to connect the yellow wire from the EVO Start 2.

EVO-START2 YELLOW WIRE TO +IGNITION (WHERE TO CONNECT)

Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:19:52 +0000